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= Minutes =
= Minutes =


board members: Matthew, Peter, Ralph
roll call
 
* board members: Matthew, Peter, Ralph
regrets: Edward
* regrets: Edward
 
* other folks: Daniel Gultsch
other folks: Daniel Gultsch


(Ralph summarizes)...
(Ralph summarizes)...
- follow up on FOSDEM conversations (e.g., with Stuart)
* follow up on FOSDEM conversations (e.g., with Stuart)
- opportunity to play a role on interoperability
* opportunity to play a role on interoperability
- EU legislation on the way
* EU legislation on the way
- we haven't been at the table to participate in these discussions
* we haven't been at the table to participate in these discussions
- upcoming interoperability workshop in Brussels
* upcoming interoperability workshop in Brussels
- https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/dma/dma-workshops/interoperability-workshop_en
* https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/dma/dma-workshops/interoperability-workshop_en
- https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-02/20230227_dma_interoperability_workshop_agenda.pdf
* https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-02/20230227_dma_interoperability_workshop_agenda.pdf
- Ralph will attend (only one representative per organization)
* Ralph will attend (only one representative per organization)
- it should be relatively easy for us to raise funds to work on this
* it should be relatively easy for us to raise funds to work on this
- if we formulate a good plan
* if we formulate a good plan
- might be a challenge if that money flows through the XSF
* might be a challenge if that money flows through the XSF
- best could be if XSF functions as a fiscal host
* best could be if XSF functions as a fiscal host


Matthew:  
Matthew:  
- we need to figure out what we want to achieve
* we need to figure out what we want to achieve
- this first workshop could be a good way to test the waters
* this first workshop could be a good way to test the waters
- agree that we don't want to become a large organization with much money
* agree that we don't want to become a large organization with much money
- the fiscal hosting could be a good framework
* the fiscal hosting could be a good framework


Peter:
Peter:
- yes, putting together a plan is the first step
* yes, putting together a plan is the first step
- let's figure out the opportunities and what resources are needed (also the timeframe)
* let's figure out the opportunities and what resources are needed (also the timeframe)


Ralph:
Ralph:
- this workshop at the end of February seems like a good place to start
* this workshop at the end of February seems like a good place to start
- supposedly EU expects to enforcing interoperability by 2025
* supposedly EU expects to enforcing interoperability by 2025


topic: IETF MIMI WG
topic: IETF MIMI WG
- definitely a reaction to the DMA
* definitely a reaction to the DMA
- but framed in a more neutral manner
* but framed in a more neutral manner
- the gatekeepers might never adopt it
* the gatekeepers might never adopt it
- and they're not involved in the WG
* and they're not involved in the WG
- it's not necessarily the case that MIMI will 100% succeed or 100% fail
* it's not necessarily the case that MIMI will 100% succeed or 100% fail
- three layers:
* three layers: transport, encryption, content
  - transport
* a document about XMPP as transport layer could help in the MIMI effort
  - encryption
* one challenge is e2e encryption
  - content
* if we have an MLS profile in XMPP, would that solve the problem?
- a document about XMPP as transport layer could help in the MIMI effort
* not really, because there are MLS parameters and they differ across systems
- one challenge is e2e encryption
* XMPP MLS profile would help
- if we have an MLS profile in XMPP, would that solve the problem?
* content layer is all being designed from scratch
- not really, because there are MLS parameters and they differ across systems
* what is the delta between what we have and what the requirements are?
- XMPP MLS profile would help
- content layer is all being designed from scratch
- what is the delta between what we have and what the requirements are?


topic: why XMPP is a protocol of choice
topic: why XMPP is a protocol of choice
- we can do a better job of this
* we can do a better job of this
- perhaps an initiative to create this
* perhaps an initiative to create this


topic: workshop panel about interoperability and security
topic: workshop panel about interoperability and security
- representatives from Cisco, META, Mozilla, etc.
* representatives from Cisco, META, Mozilla, etc.
- AI: Peter to reach out to likely attendees
* AI: Peter to reach out to likely attendees


topic: a few thoughts on plans
topic: a few thoughts on plans
- transport (and perhaps encryption and content) draft for MIMI
* transport (and perhaps encryption and content) draft for MIMI
- MLS profile for XMPP (there's already activity here by people Matthew mentions)
* MLS profile for XMPP (there's already activity here by people Matthew mentions)
- roadmap for EU interop
* roadmap for EU interop


topic: engagement with XMPP vendors
topic: engagement with XMPP vendors
- XSF should be more active here
* XSF should be more active here
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