Board-Meeting-2023-02-16

• Date: Thursday, 2023-02-16
• Time: 17:00-17:30 UTC
• Video conference at https://meet.jit.si/XSF-Board-2023-02-16 (no account needed, simply visit that URL)

Agenda

Follow-up:

• Try to talk to the Matrix project to see how we can have true federation (with or without MIMI).
• Participate in MIMI.
• Making work on MLS on XMPP a priority.

(+1 on each point by Eddie)

Invitation to Podcast in H2 (~Sept)

• I think we should join with at least two of us + discuss a communication line
• Do we need confirmation by board?
• Anyone from Board beaides me can attend?

Daniel G. proposal

• Eddie: Well, if we ramp up sponsoring anyway, then still lets go for it if they subscribe. Basically +1 to not miss this chance

FOSSY conference in Portland this summer

~Edward applies for direct access to the twitter account~

Date of Next Meeting

- Edward wants to take over organization here

Minutes

roll call

• board members: Matthew, Peter, Ralph
• regrets: Edward
• other folks: Daniel Gultsch

(Ralph summarizes)...

• follow up on FOSDEM conversations (e.g., with Stuart)
• opportunity to play a role on interoperability
• EU legislation on the way
• we haven't been at the table to participate in these discussions
• upcoming interoperability workshop in Brussels
• https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/dma/dma-workshops/interoperability-workshop_en
• https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-02/20230227_dma_interoperability_workshop_agenda.pdf
• Ralph will attend (only one representative per organization)
• it should be relatively easy for us to raise funds to work on this
• if we formulate a good plan
• might be a challenge if that money flows through the XSF
• best could be if XSF functions as a fiscal host

Matthew:

• we need to figure out what we want to achieve
• this first workshop could be a good way to test the waters
• agree that we don't want to become a large organization with much money
• the fiscal hosting could be a good framework

Peter:

• yes, putting together a plan is the first step
• let's figure out the opportunities and what resources are needed (also the timeframe)
• AI: Peter create a stub plan on the wiki

Ralph:

• this workshop at the end of February seems like a good place to start
• supposedly EU expects to enforcing interoperability by 2025

topic: IETF MIMI WG

• definitely a reaction to the DMA
• but framed in a more neutral manner
• the gatekeepers might never adopt it
• and they're not involved in the WG
• it's not necessarily the case that MIMI will 100% succeed or 100% fail
• three layers: transport, encryption, content
• a document about XMPP as transport layer could help in the MIMI effort
• one challenge is e2e encryption
• if we have an MLS profile in XMPP, would that solve the problem?
• not really, because there are MLS parameters and they differ across systems
• XMPP MLS profile would help
• content layer is all being designed from scratch
• what is the delta between what we have and what the requirements are?

topic: why XMPP is a protocol of choice

• we can do a better job of this
• perhaps an initiative to create this

topic: workshop panel about interoperability and security

• representatives from Cisco, META, Mozilla, etc.
• AI: Peter to reach out to likely attendees

topic: a few thoughts on plans

• transport (and perhaps encryption and content) draft for MIMI
• MLS profile for XMPP (there's already activity here by people Matthew mentions)
• roadmap for EU interop

topic: engagement with XMPP vendors

• XSF should be more active here