Board-Meeting-2023-02-16

• Date: Thursday, 2023-02-16
• Time: 17:00-17:30 UTC
• Video conference at https://meet.jit.si/XSF-Board-2023-02-16 (no account needed, simply visit that URL)

Agenda

Follow-up:

• Try to talk to the Matrix project to see how we can have true federation (with or without MIMI).
• Participate in MIMI.
• Making work on MLS on XMPP a priority.

(+1 on each point by Eddie)

Invitation to Podcast in H2 (~Sept)

• I think we should join with at least two of us + discuss a communication line
• Do we need confirmation by board?
• Anyone from Board beaides me can attend?

Daniel G. proposal

• Eddie: Well, if we ramp up sponsoring anyway, then still lets go for it if they subscribe. Basically +1 to not miss this chance

FOSSY conference in Portland this summer

~Edward applies for direct access to the twitter account~

Date of Next Meeting

- Edward wants to take over organization here

Minutes

board members: Matthew, Peter, Ralph

regrets: Edward

other folks: Daniel Gultsch

(Ralph summarizes)... - follow up on FOSDEM conversations (e.g., with Stuart) - opportunity to play a role on interoperability - EU legislation on the way - we haven't been at the table to participate in these discussions - upcoming interoperability workshop in Brussels - https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/dma/dma-workshops/interoperability-workshop_en - https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-02/20230227_dma_interoperability_workshop_agenda.pdf - Ralph will attend (only one representative per organization) - it should be relatively easy for us to raise funds to work on this - if we formulate a good plan - might be a challenge if that money flows through the XSF - best could be if XSF functions as a fiscal host

Matthew: - we need to figure out what we want to achieve - this first workshop could be a good way to test the waters - agree that we don't want to become a large organization with much money - the fiscal hosting could be a good framework

Peter: - yes, putting together a plan is the first step - let's figure out the opportunities and what resources are needed (also the timeframe)

Ralph: - this workshop at the end of February seems like a good place to start - supposedly EU expects to enforcing interoperability by 2025

topic: IETF MIMI WG - definitely a reaction to the DMA - but framed in a more neutral manner - the gatekeepers might never adopt it - and they're not involved in the WG - it's not necessarily the case that MIMI will 100% succeed or 100% fail - three layers:

 - transport
 - encryption
 - content

- a document about XMPP as transport layer could help in the MIMI effort - one challenge is e2e encryption - if we have an MLS profile in XMPP, would that solve the problem? - not really, because there are MLS parameters and they differ across systems - XMPP MLS profile would help - content layer is all being designed from scratch - what is the delta between what we have and what the requirements are?

topic: why XMPP is a protocol of choice - we can do a better job of this - perhaps an initiative to create this

topic: workshop panel about interoperability and security - representatives from Cisco, META, Mozilla, etc. - AI: Peter to reach out to likely attendees

topic: a few thoughts on plans - transport (and perhaps encryption and content) draft for MIMI - MLS profile for XMPP (there's already activity here by people Matthew mentions) - roadmap for EU interop

topic: engagement with XMPP vendors - XSF should be more active here