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Follow-up: | |||
* Try to talk to the Matrix project to see how we can have true federation (with or without MIMI). | |||
* Participate in MIMI. | |||
* Making work on MLS on XMPP a priority. | |||
(+1 on each point by Eddie) | |||
Invitation to Podcast in H2 (~Sept) | |||
* I think we should join with at least two of us + discuss a communication line | |||
* Do we need confirmation by board? | |||
* Anyone from Board beaides me can attend? | |||
Daniel G. proposal | |||
* Eddie: Well, if we ramp up sponsoring anyway, then still lets go for it if they subscribe. Basically +1 to not miss this chance | |||
FOSSY conference in Portland this summer | |||
~Edward applies for direct access to the twitter account~ | |||
==Call to Order / Quorum== | ==Call to Order / Quorum== | ||
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==Date of Next Meeting== | ==Date of Next Meeting== | ||
- Edward wants to take over organization here | |||
= Minutes = | |||
roll call | |||
* board members: Matthew, Peter, Ralph | |||
* regrets: Edward | |||
* other folks: Daniel Gultsch | |||
(Ralph summarizes)... | |||
* follow up on FOSDEM conversations (e.g., with Stuart) | |||
* opportunity to play a role on interoperability | |||
* EU legislation on the way | |||
* we haven't been at the table to participate in these discussions | |||
* upcoming interoperability workshop in Brussels | |||
* https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/dma/dma-workshops/interoperability-workshop_en | |||
* https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-02/20230227_dma_interoperability_workshop_agenda.pdf | |||
* Ralph will attend (only one representative per organization) | |||
* it should be relatively easy for us to raise funds to work on this | |||
* if we formulate a good plan | |||
* might be a challenge if that money flows through the XSF | |||
* best could be if XSF functions as a fiscal host | |||
Matthew: | |||
* we need to figure out what we want to achieve | |||
* this first workshop could be a good way to test the waters | |||
* agree that we don't want to become a large organization with much money | |||
* the fiscal hosting could be a good framework | |||
Peter: | |||
* yes, putting together a plan is the first step | |||
* let's figure out the opportunities and what resources are needed (also the timeframe) | |||
* AI: Peter create a stub plan on the wiki | |||
Ralph: | |||
* this workshop at the end of February seems like a good place to start | |||
* supposedly EU expects to enforcing interoperability by 2025 | |||
topic: IETF MIMI WG | |||
* definitely a reaction to the DMA | |||
* but framed in a more neutral manner | |||
* the gatekeepers might never adopt it | |||
* and they're not involved in the WG | |||
* it's not necessarily the case that MIMI will 100% succeed or 100% fail | |||
* three layers: transport, encryption, content | |||
* a document about XMPP as transport layer could help in the MIMI effort | |||
* one challenge is e2e encryption | |||
* if we have an MLS profile in XMPP, would that solve the problem? | |||
* not really, because there are MLS parameters and they differ across systems | |||
* XMPP MLS profile would help | |||
* content layer is all being designed from scratch | |||
* what is the delta between what we have and what the requirements are? | |||
topic: why XMPP is a protocol of choice | |||
* we can do a better job of this | |||
* perhaps an initiative to create this | |||
topic: workshop panel about interoperability and security | |||
* representatives from Cisco, META, Mozilla, etc. | |||
* AI: Peter to reach out to likely attendees | |||
topic: a few thoughts on plans | |||
* transport (and perhaps encryption and content) draft for MIMI | |||
* MLS profile for XMPP (there's already activity here by people Matthew mentions) | |||
* roadmap for EU interop | |||
topic: engagement with XMPP vendors | |||
* XSF should be more active here |
Latest revision as of 18:16, 16 February 2023
Coordinates
- Date: Thursday, 2023-02-16
- Time: 17:00-17:30 UTC
- Video conference at https://meet.jit.si/XSF-Board-2023-02-16 (no account needed, simply visit that URL)
Agenda
Follow-up:
- Try to talk to the Matrix project to see how we can have true federation (with or without MIMI).
- Participate in MIMI.
- Making work on MLS on XMPP a priority.
(+1 on each point by Eddie)
Invitation to Podcast in H2 (~Sept)
- I think we should join with at least two of us + discuss a communication line
- Do we need confirmation by board?
- Anyone from Board beaides me can attend?
Daniel G. proposal
- Eddie: Well, if we ramp up sponsoring anyway, then still lets go for it if they subscribe. Basically +1 to not miss this chance
FOSSY conference in Portland this summer
~Edward applies for direct access to the twitter account~
Call to Order / Quorum
Returning Business
New Business
AOB
Date of Next Meeting
- Edward wants to take over organization here
Minutes
roll call
- board members: Matthew, Peter, Ralph
- regrets: Edward
- other folks: Daniel Gultsch
(Ralph summarizes)...
- follow up on FOSDEM conversations (e.g., with Stuart)
- opportunity to play a role on interoperability
- EU legislation on the way
- we haven't been at the table to participate in these discussions
- upcoming interoperability workshop in Brussels
- https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/dma/dma-workshops/interoperability-workshop_en
- https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-02/20230227_dma_interoperability_workshop_agenda.pdf
- Ralph will attend (only one representative per organization)
- it should be relatively easy for us to raise funds to work on this
- if we formulate a good plan
- might be a challenge if that money flows through the XSF
- best could be if XSF functions as a fiscal host
Matthew:
- we need to figure out what we want to achieve
- this first workshop could be a good way to test the waters
- agree that we don't want to become a large organization with much money
- the fiscal hosting could be a good framework
Peter:
- yes, putting together a plan is the first step
- let's figure out the opportunities and what resources are needed (also the timeframe)
- AI: Peter create a stub plan on the wiki
Ralph:
- this workshop at the end of February seems like a good place to start
- supposedly EU expects to enforcing interoperability by 2025
topic: IETF MIMI WG
- definitely a reaction to the DMA
- but framed in a more neutral manner
- the gatekeepers might never adopt it
- and they're not involved in the WG
- it's not necessarily the case that MIMI will 100% succeed or 100% fail
- three layers: transport, encryption, content
- a document about XMPP as transport layer could help in the MIMI effort
- one challenge is e2e encryption
- if we have an MLS profile in XMPP, would that solve the problem?
- not really, because there are MLS parameters and they differ across systems
- XMPP MLS profile would help
- content layer is all being designed from scratch
- what is the delta between what we have and what the requirements are?
topic: why XMPP is a protocol of choice
- we can do a better job of this
- perhaps an initiative to create this
topic: workshop panel about interoperability and security
- representatives from Cisco, META, Mozilla, etc.
- AI: Peter to reach out to likely attendees
topic: a few thoughts on plans
- transport (and perhaps encryption and content) draft for MIMI
- MLS profile for XMPP (there's already activity here by people Matthew mentions)
- roadmap for EU interop
topic: engagement with XMPP vendors
- XSF should be more active here