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=Coordinates=
 
* Date: Thursday, 2023-04-05
* Time: 17:00-17:30 UTC
* Video conference at https://meet.jit.si/XSF-Board-2023-04-05 (no account needed, simply visit that URL)
 
=Agenda=
 
==Call to Order / Quorum==
 
==Returning Business==
 
* IETF MIMI
** Talk to Matrix project?
* DMA
* Editors Update?
 
==New Business==
 
* Sponsorships - how can we revive this?
* Does CommTeam need to request access to the Reddit and Facebook accounts on XMPP from Ludovic even we are not affiliated officially?
* XSF & XMPP grows even we might do not recognize. What should we continue, stop, do differently and consider for the future?
* Do we list Board meeting links, if so where?
* Add license for website content - Is there an required action and whom could do it? https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/407
* We are invited: Inlaws Podcast - 15th nov 2023 20:00 - 21:00 (Europe/Berlin)
** Eddie organizes around https://linuxinlaws.eu/ podcast invitation in Q4 2023
** Please add it to the time to the XSF Calendar.
** Please also let me know if you want to participate (and I kindly ask to join as I am quite limited to technical discussions) - let me know if you should also ask from the Community.
** I will prepare the communication preparations.
* Monal wants to join the [https://monal-im.org/index.xml Planet Jabber RSS feed]
* Edward wants to mention how difficult it is to organise within the XSF Board on meetings, communication between meetings and calendar and wishes that we could agree on a way / platform (use of Google calendar, trello no xmpp chat for discussions on the side?) forward to get this a (single) modern setup.
* Edward requests the 15$ / per sprint-participant SCAM support for a sprint in June 23
* Praises again to wurstsalat rendering my organisation chart proposal:  https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation/
 
==AOB==
 
==Date of Next Meeting==
 
* Date and Time: Thursday, May 4, 2023 @ 17:00 UTC.
* Location: XSF chatroom
* See https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board-Meeting-2023-05-04
 
= Minutes =
 
 
== Call to Order ==
 
Board members present: Ralph, Eddie, Matthew, Peter, Arc
 
== Returning Business ==
 
=== IETF MIMI WG / MLS / DMA ===
 
* finding common ground with Matrix might not work out in practice
* Matrix protocol requirements are different from anything else
* federation with two competing s2s protocols would be difficult
* gateways would be ncessary if we don't have a common s2s protocol
* would be either XMPP or Matrix (or define a new protocol * silly!)
 
=== MLS ===
 
* we need to define an MLS profile for XMPP
* some work has been happening
  * people from the Dino team (Rafael, etc.)
  * Daniel has said he can assist, too
  * Matthew is in touch with them
  * Peter volunteers to help
  * AI: Matthew to start email thread with the relevant parties
* one requirement in DMA is that if there's e2e then it should not be degraded
* but it should be optional
 
=== Editor Team update ===
 
* Kev has processed some issues and worked on some tooling
* scripts to review PRs and publish
* can be run locally
* publish to Docker registry
* bulk of the work now is doing all the triage (also a script for that)
* just doing the triage makes the other tasks trivial
* Peter has more cycles now to help
 
== New Business ==
 
=== Infrastructure Team ===
 
* Jonathan is working on mailman etc.
* Edwin can restore DNS
 
=== sponsorships ===
 
* we've always worked on a small budget
* haven't been assertive about seeking sponsors
* most past sponsors have been software vendors in the XMPP space
* we could also seek out grants from large organizations
  * example: https://sovereigntechfund.de/en/
  * Eddie created brainstorming pad at https://pad.nixnet.services/K-DVXLFUSxaF4liewf0Smw#
* what would we need / want to spend money on?
 
=== marketing ===
 
* Facebook account?
* Reddit account?
* Ludovic created those
* we could create our own accounts
 
=== license for website content ===
 
* https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/407
* should be straightforward
 
=== Inlaws podcast ===
 
* Ralph or Matthew should do it
 
=== Meetings ===
 
* Eddie and Peter to coordinate
 
=== SCAM ===
 
* The team has budget
* Board approval not needed for expenses within that budget

Latest revision as of 17:00, 10 April 2023

Coordinates

Agenda

Call to Order / Quorum

Returning Business

  • IETF MIMI
    • Talk to Matrix project?
  • DMA
  • Editors Update?

New Business

  • Sponsorships - how can we revive this?
  • Does CommTeam need to request access to the Reddit and Facebook accounts on XMPP from Ludovic even we are not affiliated officially?
  • XSF & XMPP grows even we might do not recognize. What should we continue, stop, do differently and consider for the future?
  • Do we list Board meeting links, if so where?
  • Add license for website content - Is there an required action and whom could do it? https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/407
  • We are invited: Inlaws Podcast - 15th nov 2023 20:00 - 21:00 (Europe/Berlin)
    • Eddie organizes around https://linuxinlaws.eu/ podcast invitation in Q4 2023
    • Please add it to the time to the XSF Calendar.
    • Please also let me know if you want to participate (and I kindly ask to join as I am quite limited to technical discussions) - let me know if you should also ask from the Community.
    • I will prepare the communication preparations.
  • Monal wants to join the Planet Jabber RSS feed
  • Edward wants to mention how difficult it is to organise within the XSF Board on meetings, communication between meetings and calendar and wishes that we could agree on a way / platform (use of Google calendar, trello no xmpp chat for discussions on the side?) forward to get this a (single) modern setup.
  • Edward requests the 15$ / per sprint-participant SCAM support for a sprint in June 23
  • Praises again to wurstsalat rendering my organisation chart proposal: https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation/

AOB

Date of Next Meeting

Minutes

Call to Order

Board members present: Ralph, Eddie, Matthew, Peter, Arc

Returning Business

IETF MIMI WG / MLS / DMA

  • finding common ground with Matrix might not work out in practice
  • Matrix protocol requirements are different from anything else
  • federation with two competing s2s protocols would be difficult
  • gateways would be ncessary if we don't have a common s2s protocol
  • would be either XMPP or Matrix (or define a new protocol * silly!)

MLS

  • we need to define an MLS profile for XMPP
  • some work has been happening
 * people from the Dino team (Rafael, etc.)
 * Daniel has said he can assist, too
 * Matthew is in touch with them
 * Peter volunteers to help
 * AI: Matthew to start email thread with the relevant parties
  • one requirement in DMA is that if there's e2e then it should not be degraded
  • but it should be optional

Editor Team update

  • Kev has processed some issues and worked on some tooling
  • scripts to review PRs and publish
  • can be run locally
  • publish to Docker registry
  • bulk of the work now is doing all the triage (also a script for that)
  • just doing the triage makes the other tasks trivial
  • Peter has more cycles now to help

New Business

Infrastructure Team

  • Jonathan is working on mailman etc.
  • Edwin can restore DNS

sponsorships

  • we've always worked on a small budget
  • haven't been assertive about seeking sponsors
  • most past sponsors have been software vendors in the XMPP space
  • we could also seek out grants from large organizations
 * example: https://sovereigntechfund.de/en/
 * Eddie created brainstorming pad at https://pad.nixnet.services/K-DVXLFUSxaF4liewf0Smw#
  • what would we need / want to spend money on?

marketing

  • Facebook account?
  • Reddit account?
  • Ludovic created those
  • we could create our own accounts

license for website content

Inlaws podcast

  • Ralph or Matthew should do it

Meetings

  • Eddie and Peter to coordinate

SCAM

  • The team has budget
  • Board approval not needed for expenses within that budget