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* Grade A (no self signed certificate, no insecure TLS settings) on xmpp.net
 
* Grade A (no self signed certificate, no insecure TLS settings) on xmpp.net
 
* Provides a privacy policy (link)
 
* Provides a privacy policy (link)
* Complies with GDPR (How are we going to verify that?)
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=== Additional Criteria ===
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''Criteria that are generally'' nice to have ''but are we are unsure on how to verify them. (Suggestions welcome)''
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* Complies with GDPR
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* Has a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor bus factor] > 1
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* Proper monitoring
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* Proper backup
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* No extremely restrictive anti spam policies like allowing only messages from people in your contact list
  
 
== List of providers ==
 
== List of providers ==
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
! Provider
 
! Provider
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! Server(s) location (and providers)
 
! Up time (30 day average)
 
! Up time (30 day average)
 
! Compliance
 
! Compliance
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! Fee
 
! Fee
 
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| blabber.im
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| -
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| -
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| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/blabber.im/ 19/19]
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| [https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=blabber.im&type=client Grade A]
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| https://blabber.im/en/datenschutz/
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| Free
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| conversations.im
 
| conversations.im
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| Germany ([https://www.manitu.de Manitu])
 
| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 99.52%]
 
| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 99.52%]
 
| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/conversations.im/ 19/19]
 
| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/conversations.im/ 19/19]
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| https://account.conversations.im/privacy/
 
| https://account.conversations.im/privacy/
 
| 8 Euro / year after 6 month trial
 
| 8 Euro / year after 6 month trial
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| dismail.de
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| -
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| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 100.0%]
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| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/dismail.de/ 19/19]
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| [https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=dismail.de&type=client Grade A]
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| https://dismail.de/datenschutz.html
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| free
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| jabberfr.org
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| France ([https://www.online.net online.net])
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| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 99.72%]
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| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/jabber.fr/ 19/19]
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| [https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=jabber.fr&type=client Grade A]
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| https://wiki.jabberfr.org/CGU
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| Free
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| magicbroccoli.de
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| -
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| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 99.66%]
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| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/magicbroccoli.de/ 19/19]
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| [https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=magicbroccoli.de&type=client Grade A]
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| https://magicbroccoli.de/datenschutz/
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| Free
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| tigase.im
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| USA (AWS)
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| -
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| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/tigase.im/ 18/19]
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| [https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=tigase.im&type=client Grade A]
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| https://tigase.im/privacy.txt
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| Free
 
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| trashserver.net
 
| trashserver.net
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| -
 
| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 99.92%]
 
| [https://status.conversations.im/historical 99.92%]
 
| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/trashserver.net/ 19/19]
 
| [https://compliance.conversations.im/server/trashserver.net/ 19/19]

Latest revision as of 09:20, 23 September 2019

Criteria

Criteria should be independently verifiable. For example stats (compliancy, up time, TLS) should be generated with open source tools and the results should be linked from the list. Things like Privacy policy should be linked from the list as well.

  • Passes the Conversations Compliance Test
  • Provides IBR (redirect to website is OK)
  • Up-time of >=99.5% in the last 30 days. (On XMPP level (successful login) not just TCP). For example measured via status.conversations.im.
  • Grade A (no self signed certificate, no insecure TLS settings) on xmpp.net
  • Provides a privacy policy (link)

Additional Criteria

Criteria that are generally nice to have but are we are unsure on how to verify them. (Suggestions welcome)

  • Complies with GDPR
  • Has a bus factor > 1
  • Proper monitoring
  • Proper backup
  • No extremely restrictive anti spam policies like allowing only messages from people in your contact list

List of providers

Provider Server(s) location (and providers) Up time (30 day average) Compliance TLS Privacy Policy Fee
blabber.im - - 19/19 Grade A https://blabber.im/en/datenschutz/ Free
conversations.im Germany (Manitu) 99.52% 19/19 Grade A https://account.conversations.im/privacy/ 8 Euro / year after 6 month trial
dismail.de - 100.0% 19/19 Grade A https://dismail.de/datenschutz.html free
jabberfr.org France (online.net) 99.72% 19/19 Grade A https://wiki.jabberfr.org/CGU Free
magicbroccoli.de - 99.66% 19/19 Grade A https://magicbroccoli.de/datenschutz/ Free
tigase.im USA (AWS) - 18/19 Grade A https://tigase.im/privacy.txt Free
trashserver.net - 99.92% 19/19 Grade A https://trashserver.net/en/privacy/ Donation